The Church of Scientology Implodes

There for awhile, people kept asking each other, “When will the Church of Scientology collapse?” I kept saying, it’s happening now, but because the church puts up a good façade, it wasn’t so obvious.

Well, now it’s obvious that we are seeing the inevitable collapse of the Church of Scientology.

Let me show you the signs and my predictions for the future.

Already we saw churches closing, excused as “combining” with nearby churches, but now we are seeing churches actually disappearing, closing their doors.

Already we were seeing the membership numbers drastically dropping, and every day, newly out ex-Scientologists are telling their stories, getting in touch with old friends.

Already we were seeing the “formidable” attack machinery of the church falling apart, failing. But, today, they have so few trusted staff that they can no longer fight more than one battle at a time — and they have so many more than one battle today.

Major news outlets have written exposés on the church, but that’s just the bare start. More news reports on the Church of Scientology’s criminal activities are being prepared at this moment.

Already we have seen the church’s deepest, darkest secrets exposed — not just their “confidential OT Levels” but the pervasive abuse, criminal actions and blatant lying at the very highest levels of the church. Strong legal actions against the church are in progress, official investigations are in progress. Things are not looking good.

The church’s ship, the Freewinds, is floating around nearly empty. The big cash cow has become a big cash drain. As you may know, the ship was kicked out of Curaçao for all their bad behavior and is now home-ported in Colombia.

Flag, the biggest church in Scientology, has collapsed. To try to stem the collapse they forbade all field auditors within 90 miles from delivering any services, but that didn’t help. Now they are trying to steal all public from every other church, promoting that all those services are now available at Flag. They are desperate and in big trouble.

The other churches are mostly empty and struggling to pay their bills — often many months late and getting later. Staff simply aren’t getting paid.

The church’s so-called “missions” are disappearing but it’s hard to tell. Most missions are out of someone’s home and only open a few hours a week. The difference between an “open” and “closed” mission isn’t very much.

The Church of Scientology claims there are thousands of “Scientology Groups” but none of them can be found. It appears all their groups have closed.

It is a catastrophe, and just getting worse.

Here’s what’s coming up.

First, you will see David Miscavige spending a lot of time on the Freewinds. (I’ll give you a hint on why: There is no extradition from Colombia. As long as he is “at sea” or in Colombia, he can hide from the law.)

Second, there will be many more church closings. Those that aren’t closed will become empty, most lights turned off, most rooms unused. They may retain a receptionist who will “show movies” to anyone foolish enough to come in. A few services will be available, and only at limited times. If they own the building outright, and as long as they don’t have to pay taxes, they will be able to keep these dark, empty buildings “open” for a long time.

Scientology will implode into Clearwater, meaning that the major center, major focus and remaining activities will happen there. Scientologists who remain True Believers will be forced to move to Clearwater as local churches close and services become difficult to obtain.

At some point, the advanced churches at the Los Angeles “Big Blue” center will “expand” to Clearwater as well.

The much-vaunted “new buildings” that the church owns will become a liability, since they are all now worth much less than what was originally paid for them. Some, like “Big Blue” are so old and poorly maintained that they can only be torn down.

We will see fewer and fewer Scientologists as all this goes down. The Freezone will expand a bit with the influx of those who still believe in Hubbard’s technology, but even that group will eventually suffer from the fact that all Hubbard’s secrets have been exposed, all his lies have been documented.

For those who wanted to see the Church of Scientology collapse, keep your eyes open because that’s what’s happening right now.

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40 Responses to The Church of Scientology Implodes

  1. Omnom says:

    Hi Just Bill,Are there public postings on this? I understand the need for secrecy if this is coming straight from the inside, but I'd like to confirm this in any way possible (being a skeptic, I try not to take anything on face value – not the Scn party-line, but not the opposite party-line either.)I feel bad for those who still believe, that will need to re-learn the wog world, but from the Ex-Scn I've spoken with or otherwise communicated with, I feel they have a very good chance in life. There is, as you mention, the FZ, which although I don't see as a huge force, does not abuse their members, to the best of my knowledge.In the end, I have very little good to say about DM. At least LRH was charismatic, which DM has completely failed (would this be a world-wide ARCX?) I look forward to actual truth, freedom, and communication.As always, thank you for your posts. I look forward to them.

  2. Anonymous says:

    I believe it is happening. One thing that I wonder about is will the Co$ go down fighting? What is their end game strategy going to be? They still have their tax exemption to hold onto that's their strongest protection. They could still try to rebuild and probably will if they can hold onto to their tax exemption. Once they lose their tax protection they won't be able to survive much longer.

  3. Just Bill says:

    @OmnomWhere I'm referring to things we've seen, those are all from public postings in various places.The upcoming events are from more private sources, but will be seen soon. Look for something big coming up from a top TV news outlet.After that, there are my predictions which are based on a lots of things. I think the future history of the Church of Scientology is pretty clear-cut now. I've been predicting the "collapse into Clearwater" scenario for several years and nothing that has happened has changed my mind about that. Theoretically, it could collapse into Big Blue instead, but I really don't see that happening. It is also possible it will collapse to some location outside the U.S., but I think the U.S. is just too favorable to them.As part of all this, we'll undoubtedly see one or more parts of the Church of Scientology declaring bankruptcy — which will be used to get rid of debts and bad property. However, the real assets will be held by a different part of the church and will be protected.Unless he's caught inside the U.S., David Miscavige will continue to live very well off of Scientologist's money for years to come.

  4. Just Bill says:

    @AnonymousWell, yes, the Church of Scientology will continue to fight. But, as we've seen, they are terribly ineffective, and that will only get worse. The intelligent people have left. Innovation and thinking are punished. Their "fight" will be strictly directed by Miscavige, and he is insane.There will be no rebuilding under any scenario I can envision. The Scientology technology is damaged goods, damaged by all the revelations and leaks, and horribly damaged by Miscavige's attempts to become "Source". The church organization itself is fatally flawed. The only "rebuild" would have to come from outside, and that means Freezone — which has no interest in such an endeavor.I don't see the church losing its tax break in the U.S. any time soon. I'd love to be wrong about that, but I just don't see the IRS going in that direction.

  5. Anonymous says:

    Great post here. Everything is pretty on target, at least how I am seeing it. There are just too many battles to be fought for them to Fair Game everyone. And they are getting increasingly less effective (see recent Freedom Mag response to the SP Times expose).One thing to correct:"The church's ship, the Freewinds, is floating around nearly empty. The big cash cow has become a big cash drain. As you may know, the ship was kicked out of Curaçao for all their bad behavior and is now home-ported in Columbia."It's actually EVEN worse than this… the Freewinds is CRAWLING with Blue Asbestos (the most harmful kind) which is a serious serious potential cancer causing agent. Rather than remove it all (which would be too costly), they've simply tried to "brush it under the rug", so to speak. It's going to be ugly when so many of these Scientologists contract cancer in the near future. Sad…and disgusting.Link: http://digg.com/world_news/Freewinds_Docked_due_to_Blue_Asbestos

  6. Nomar says:

    Nice prediction Bill do you also do numbers and do laundery ? Thats the biggest amount of crock i've seen in a long while , any one who would be foolish enough to even accept a bit of your word as something substantial , would be likely also to be waiting in a field with a waving torch to guide down the wee little green fellas .Nice predictions bill . Do you also do horoscope .

  7. Anonymous says:

    Just Bill,I have the perfect bailout plan for COB. Why not start some Scio front groups in Columbia near the Failwinds, oh I don't know, maybe: Association for Protection of Exporter's Rights, Growers Code of Honor Institute, Cartel Management Services. Any of those would be suitable. Just think of the cash cow Davey could squeeze there and he would be right in his element, probably forming the first true and lasting friendships of his life.Anon

  8. Just Bill says:

    @NomarOhhh! Did I upset you? A little too close to reality for you?Feedback like yours lets me know I'm right on target. Thanks.

  9. Just Bill says:

    Re: FreewindsWell, yes. The blue asbestos coverup is by far the worst crime the Freewinds has committed. That is one of the crimes that got them kicked out of Curaçao, for sure.

  10. Just Bill says:

    Re: COB bailoutI don't know. Do you think the drug lords would want to do business with a lowlife like Miscavige?

  11. Anonymous says:

    Just Bill,I don't think so, they would likely find DM untrustworthy.

  12. Anonymous says:

    I think they can hold out for quite some time. Don't they have a ton of money they've extorted from their members over the last 50 or so years? Certainly they've spent lots keeping things going and probably lost plenty in the financial meltdown and real estate, but they started with a large fortune and they should still have a small fortune.

  13. Just Bill says:

    Re: Hold out a long time.Well, yes, the church could hold out a long time, but that really doesn't change the collapse scenario very much. Money flows in one direction in the Church of Scientology – up to David Miscavige. Current operating expenses must be paid from current income at the local level. With no public coming in, there will be no money for local operating expenses. Miscavige will not subsidize any local churches — so they will close.Those local churches that already own their own buildings in full, and have tax breaks, may be able to stay "open" by shutting off all possible energy use and overhead. This would be the "dark building with receptionist showing films" scenario.Even Flag and the advanced churches of Big Blue will not get any money from Miscavige. As their income dries up, they will have to consolidate. As I predict, eventually, AOLA, ASHO, will "consolidate" into Flag at Clearwater to keep from closing.No, all those vast hidden funds are Miscavige's, and he won't send any of that back to local churches.

  14. Anonymous says:

    Oh what's that Nomar?Feeling a little enturbulated there? Feeling a little BUTTHURT?A little SCARED?If I were you, I'd find the prospect of losing the most important thing in your life TERRIFYING. When your world eventually comes crashing down, Scientology crumbles around your feet and the real world hits you in the face like a wrecking ball, you will look back upon that post you made and how much time and effort you put towards a madman's dream… It's beautiful really.Remember what I said. Understand that when you have nowhere else to go, there are groups out there who WILL help you and WILL be more forgiving than I am, but right now, wallow in your pathetic brainwashed existence, and continue being faced with the mockery of the entire world.You sir, fail at life… on an epically facepalm-inducing fashion.

  15. R. Hill says:

    You happened to publish this blog post right when I had almost completed a first pass at compiling data regarding Scientology-linked entities in (mostly) U.S. (as of now).Here is an overview which I think complement your post:Scientology-linked entities: StatisticsThere are certainly more entities out there that should be part of this, but I think there are enough at this point to make the overall trend meaningful.(It was a pain to go through each of the over 500 entities, but now at least it's just a matter of adding to it, or updating/correcting what's has been gathered.)

  16. Just Bill says:

    @R. HillThat is a lot of work! I'm very impressed.The label "Number of active entities per year" could be misinterpreted. Obviously, "active" in this context means "in existence" or "still incorporated" rather than "doing something".In truth, many of these entities are dormant. Most "active missions" are active only a few hours a week, if that. Most groups are totally inactive, or were created with impressive-sounding names solely for issuing press releases.The number of entities is definitely not an indication of Church of Scientology vitality.

  17. R. Hill says:

    @Just Bill:You're right, it is most certainly an optimistic trend of Scientology's real vitality. I think it is useful though as an objective data-based argument to counter David Miscavige's various statements regarding Scientology's "unparalleled growth since 2004," or "8,071 Scientology Churches, Missions and groups in 165 nations"I quoted your insight onto the page to mitigate what is shown on the page for the benefit of the reader, hope you don't mind.

  18. Anonymous says:

    Nice article. I hope your predictions are correct.

  19. Just Bill says:

    Well, we'll see. That's the fun part about making predictions, watching to see which ones come true, when and how.

  20. Anonymous says:

    Listen Just Bill I got news for you, I heard the same shit from anon for almost two years now and I still see a SHIT LOAD of money coming and going everyday… I'm sorry I meant I see church members coming and going…. While trolling wwp I saw u had a new post up and decided to look at it. Let me just say this and I will be done and everyone can make of it what they want: THE CULT HAS MASSIVE COFFERS OVERFLOWING WITH THE HARD EARNED MONEY OFF THE SWEAT OF THEIR BACKS THAT WILL PRACTICALY NEVER END!!! AS LONG AS THE CULT HAS ANY FOLLOWERS THEY WILL HAVE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF INCOME, NOT TO MENTION THE PROPERTY THEY OWN AND THE LAND THAT SITS EMPTY WAITING FOR BETTER TIMES TO SELL OF AND MAKE A FORTUNE OFF OF…. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE CULT IS JUST AS STRONG FIVE YEARS FROM NOW AND THE MARKET AND ECONEMY RE STABLIZE AND THE "DONATIONS" KICK INTO OVERDRIVE AGAIN? BRO IM GLAD YOU RUN THIS BLOG BUT I GOT SOME HARD NEWS FOR YOU TO SWALLOW… THE CULT WILL BE AROUND AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THAT PRECIOUS PRECIOUS MONEY… MEANING THE CULT WILL BE AROUND FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS TO COME BEFORE THEY EVEN REACH CRITICAL MASS. YES THEY ARE DECLINING RAPIDLY, BUT EVEN IF NO NEW MEAT TO THE GRINDERS APPEAR THEY STILL HAVE ALL THE ILL GOTTEN TAX FREE MONEY THAT HAS BEEN HOARDED FOR THIS VERY OCCASION. FUCK IT IM NOT GONNA GET INTO A LONG AND DRAWN OUT DISCUSION WITH YOU (EVEN KNOW IT PISSES ME OFF ROYALY AND GIVES YOUNG IMPRESSIONABLE ANONS FALSE SENSE OF ACCOMPLISHMENT AND THEN SAY :I DONT NEED TO SHOW UP FOR THE PROTEST THEY ARE ALOMOST DEAD AND GONE" AND THAT IS HOW THEY WILL ULTIMATLY BEAST US… THE NUMBERS EVEN NOW THEY STILL HAVE MORE, 16K IS NOT 8-10 MIL BUT STILL 16K IS MORE THAN US) BUT I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE SAY THEY SEE THE CULT CRUMBLING BECASUE THEY ARE ALWAYS CRUMBLING AND THE NEXT DAY WE SEE MORE SCILONS GOING TO "SERVICES" AKA MONEY DONATIONS GIMME GIMMIE GIMME OR THE SP'S WIN SHIT!! thank you for exposing the cult but be real. .. people come here to ask a real scilon who left, not someone with no proof or nothing but opinion, as the chans say DOX OR GTFO. LONG LIVE THE CULT OF SCAMOLOGY.. AS LONG AS THEY HAVE MONEY THEY WILL STILL BE A THREAT, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE TAX EXEMPT STATUS THEY WILL WIN….

  21. Just Bill says:

    @Caps lock personFirst, get rid of the CAPS LOCK key on your keyboard. It's causing you to write ALL IN CAPS, which is hard to read and really annoying.Second, while I do answer questions with real and truthful information, my articles are (as this blog has said from the beginning) primarily opinion pieces. Their purpose is to clarify Scientology to non-Scientologists, and to help Scientologists discover the truth about what they have experienced.I am not in the business of news, leaks, docs etc., that is very well covered by many, many people, and doesn't need my small voice.What I try to do is look at what all the data, facts, evidence, lies, half-truths mean. Often, in the vast torrent of information — both true and false — what it all means becomes lost.For instance, you have one significant flaw in your chain of reasoning: Money comes from people. As the Church of Scientology loses more and more members — and they are, at an incredible rate — their money dries up. Sure, for a while, the church will still be able to pull in some money, but not nearly what it has been.Understand too, that if there still are any huge donations, those donations do not go to the local churches. This is key. The only money the local churches may keep and use is a fraction of their local income from selling local services. Nothing more.Because of this last point, the dwindling number of Scientologists and almost complete lack of new public hits the local churches particularly hard and virtually ensures that they will cease to exist. This is already happening – and has been for years.Miscavige will not open up the purportedly large coffers of Scientology to prop up these local churches, because he knows they are a black hole.The rate that Scientologists are leaving the Church of Scientology was over 50% in just the last year, and that rate is increasing.There is no magic fund of money to prop up local churches. Scientologists, the few that remain, are not all wealthy and endlessly able to cough up unlimited amounts of money. That just isn't reality.The Church of Scientology is on the ropes, just as I said. As far as my predictions, well, we'll just have to see.

  22. Just Bill says:

    The fact that the core of the Church of Scientology (aka David Miscavige and his sycophants) has lots of money, leads to another possible scenario: Miscavige moves his "Int. Base" to Colombia, or some other "safe" location. He sets up his "International Management" compound with all his Sea Org slave labor and RPF labor camps in some foreign location and lives there like a king.Yes, that little compound, supported with all Miscavige's money, could last a long time. But, since Miscavige's mental condition is deteriorating, he might just announce it was "time to join LRH at 'Target Two'," and order all his followers to "drop their bodies" a la "Heaven's Gate" or "Jonestown".We really do need to get as many people out as we can.

  23. Stuck says:

    It is happening in our area. The Org has 3 staff members and hardly any students. They have moved to a smaller building and the building that was purchased is standing empty waiting for renovations to be done. The funds to pay for the renovations still have to be collected. The new building that was purchased at a huge cost has been standing empty for a year now.They just keep on asking for more and more money.

  24. andon says:

    If he thinks he can't be extradited out of Colombia he is in for a shock. People are extradited out of there all the time, especially drug dealers and FARC. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/30/AR2009073003808.html

  25. Anonymous says:

    I'll bet he goes to Africa where ABLE has been making inroads with Narconon and Criminon.Extradition is unlikely and he'll live like a king or probably be one.Co$ will probably go from a 'church' into a secret society of sorts- especially in Western countries. It wont be overt and will look to re-emerge in 10-20 years.I think everyone focuses too much on DM and not those who are most likely his successors.I certainly think that to just sit back and wait for Co$ to fall is a serious mistake. They should be hit even harder now.

  26. Just Bill says:

    Interesting ideas. Africa is definitely a possibility. Miscavige does have that nice Kyalami Castle in Midrand South Africa. And, as you said, the Church of Scientology is gaining ground there.I'm not much concerned with any successor to Miscavige. Because Miscavige is very, very insecure, he has gotten rid of anyone with any intelligence or leadership abilities. Meaning, there is no competent person in all of Scientology's hierarchy. Any internal successor would just be worse.As for someone from outside the church taking over — from outside, it is obvious the Church of Scientology is a dog's breakfast. No one would want to take over its problems.Also, the secret society thing is interesting, but basically impossible. All its secrets are very well exposed. There is no secret left. Besides, that just isn't Miscavige's style. He craves the adulation of "millions" of followers.It's hard to predict some of this because Miscavige is insane. He won't be logical.

  27. Anonymous says:

    Bill, please forward this to your sources.This was asked on yahoo answers.I'm concerned about "forced" scientology in the workplace?My friend has a job in an office setting that requires every employee to do "course" work once per month. This course work is thru the Ron L. Hubbard College of Administration – Basic Skills for Successful Management. My friend does not understand what these "courses" have to do with her job as they only talk about your personal life and how you deal with it. The books are very juvenile in nature with picture stories but the text in between is very intense. Can a business (private medical practice) require employees to take these courses? And what are an employees rights regarding this? Who do you contact to find out? Many of the employees are uncomfortable, but are hesitant to say anything as some are really involved while others are newer and still questioning things. My friend is concerned about retaliation if she tells them she does not want to take the courses anymore. The practice is very disciplined and runs very efficiently with an Sr and Jr hierarchy. They utilize many of the Hubbard teachings/tools such as CSW (completed staff work forms), dispatches, knowledge reports and STATS….also recently a confidentiality form was distributed that stated if the employee was to breach the confidentiality of the office, then that employee would be expected to pay a certain amount of money for each breach…. Please help?!45 minutes ago – 4 days left to answer. Additional DetailsThe last employee to say they did not want to take the courses was labeled a TS (trouble source) and then eventually was fired – with no explanation to anyone in the office, as it is policy to NOT talk about anything other than work related things.30 minutes agoMy reply so far is this.HAVE YOUR FRIEND LOOK FOR AND FIND ANOTHER JOB NOW. I can't over-emphazize this point. They will try to get her/him into the Church of Scientology. I wasted 3 years in that "dubious thought system". Save them NOW.(actually 4 1/2 years)Contact aclu.org and your local state employment practises board.I'm forwarding your question to my sources and ask your permission to communicate with them, when I have their answer. They have many multiple years of experience of bringing the Church of Scientology's crimes and unethical activities to the public venue.It is a W.I.S.E. (world institute of scientology enterprises) company. A part of the Church of Scientology's business activities. They will eventually soak the owners not only of their earnings, but their minds as well (if they haven't done so already). All the while duping them with "business improvements" that will mean lower wages and longer hours in "study" for your friend. Their "low key" approach is just the beginning.HAVE YOUR FRIEND LOOK FOR AND FIND ANOTHER JOB NOW.See this NOW.http://www.theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.compublish it or not as you wish, I'm going back to direct her to your site and Andreas's and Mark's and Astra's.LOL

  28. Just Bill says:

    Re: W.I.S.E.Anyone who is required to take part in any religious ritual, religious instruction or religious indoctrination by any company should immediately contact their appropriate state agency.There is no state that allows this. No company is permitted to do this.They may say this is business training, but it is Scientology practices and beliefs that are being pushed. The practices and beliefs being taught come directly, without alteration, from Scientology.This is wrong. Anyone experiencing or witnessing this must contact the appropriate state agency with full details.

  29. Anonymous says:

    I left Scn and the SO (int mgmt staff) many years ago. It took me a good while to sort things out for myself, but once I did I had no doubt I did the right thing and was happy to have my life back. Now after all these years the tentacles of Scn seem to be reaching back into my family. A niece who was raised in the SO recently left flag and showed up at her grandfather's w/a new baby and husband in tow. In their late 20s, they don't even have high school diplomas, no money and all other immed family on both sides are SO. Her grandfather is an old man who hates Scn but has a soft spot for his grandaughter and the new baby. They have been made to promise they will not "do scientology" while he is helping them, but have made it clear they still consider themselves Scientologists and I believe they intend to go back. They want nothing to do w/me as I am ex SO. Have tried to explain to the family that it's not realistic to expect a SO member to not "do scn" as it is so ingrained in their thinking and all they have ever known. Would like to expose them to the truth about Scn, but feel it may be near impossible as they will refute everything as lies and they are not open to me. Also want to prevent them from taking advantage of an old man and causing more pain and destruction in our family. Am feeling powerless and wondering what advice you might have on how to approach this difficult situation. Would really love to get them out of Scn and help them have a chance at a better life.

  30. Just Bill says:

    Re: Niece and babyThis is always tough. As you certainly know, part of the Scientology brainwashing is to convince the Scientologist to reject all "outside" sources of data as "entheta". Any negative information is automatically rejected and the person saying it is disconnected from.This makes it almost impossible to get the Scientologist to see the truth.But not impossible.First, all Scientologists, and especially Sea Org members, do know that something is wrong. They may not be willing to admit who is the cause of the problems, but they are all aware that things within the Church of Scientology are not going well.I'm not talking about the protests or leaked documents. I'm referring to the continual abuse of Scientologists by the church: The demands for money; the incredible pressure; the lack of progress — even blocking of progress; the guilt.You don't have to tell them that things are bad. You don't have to convince them of that.You, or someone, just needs to get them to admit that.First, if they have a safe environment, where they don't feel threatened or attacked (which they have had continually in the Sea Org) they will be able to relax and, trust me, they will see the difference between a Scientology environment, and a non-Scientology environment. You can't imagine what this does to their reality.Second, if some non-Scientologist that they trust and respect can get them to just talk, openly and honestly, about what being at Flag, in the Sea Org, was really, like, they will be able to, finally, admit that it was wrong. It's a deep, dark secret — the pressure, the abuse, the attacks — that they need to talk about.From there, it is a short step to admitting that the Church of Scientology actively and consciously allowed and promoted those abuses.Whether they can see that Scientology, the belief system, contains flaws isn't, at this time, important. It may help to tell them "Scientology certainly may be good, but the Church of Scientology is doing very bad things."Good luck.

  31. Anonymous says:

    Re: Niece and babyThanks. Good advice. I'll approach it from that perspective and hope for the best. If the collapse continues at a steady clip and some more major negative media comes out soon that could also help. There is so much out there on the web, I wish I could get them to read it, but don't think that's likely. I remember my own process and how long it took me to detangle myself from all the scn twisted thinking that I'd been programmed with for years. It's a very very hard thing to realize and accept that you've devoted so much of your life a lie.

  32. Bill K. says:

    God bless Lisa McPherson

  33. Anonymous says:

    Hi Bill,I've been lurking for a week or so. Doing a LOT of reading out here in the forbidden zone.Latest copy of the Freewinds magazine came today. At the back under "recent completions", I counted 94 OT VIII completions, and many, many of the "basics" book completions. Whilst the ship could not viably function on just the course fees from the basic books courses, 94 OT VII comps are another story. There was no specific dates associated with any of these completions.What is your take on this?

  34. Just Bill says:

    Re: FreewindsThis is something you need to be very aware of if you are newly out of the bubble — the not-entirely-false statistics of Scientology. This one is typical. Wow! 94 completions! You go to the events and see exploding graphs and graphs with big 3X on it! Wow!But think about it. If you were doing an evaluation, those statistics out be an outpoint not a pluspoint. They are missing reference points of any kind. Three times what? In what time period? What dates?As "impressive" as these statistics are, they are meaningless because they lack every single bit of information that gives them any significance at all.When you see this kind of presentation, it indicates that someone is hiding something.Don't fall for Scientology's not-entirely-false information.

  35. Anonymous says:

    I was atonished with your blog. It is fantastic. I have known some scienos and remember Clarisse Meschoulam, pioneer whoo opened up Hundary..And she attested to "Native State" at FLB…Sure it is imploding

  36. MeccaaAnon says:

    Very good article, I tend to agree that the Co$ will probably start retreating to Clearwater or possibly Gold Base. I will tell you that conditions in Clearwater are not too favorable for scientology right now. Folks who have been observing them for a while think that their numbers seem to be down over that of the past few years. They have bought up even more of the downtown area but the public events I've been to have been sparsely attended. Most of the "wogz" around here are find them amusing, ridiculous or are downright hostile. Also; there is a good core of anons here, they hate that! And – unconfirmed reports suggest that work on the SP building has stalled once again. Keep up the good work! Remember the old bomber pilot adage, "you get the most flack when right over target."

  37. bb says:

    Hi Bill, I keep my finger on the pulse re COS and am a major figure in the FZ. I think you are pretty much on the money in your statements. On one though I'd be very interested in knowing your source:- "The rate that Scientologists are leaving the Church of Scientology was over 50% in just the last year, and that rate is increasing." Also to clarify, are you saying half the COS members left last year? How can that be ascertained? Not that I think this is nessesarily a wrong estimation.

  38. Just Bill says:

    @bbYou are right and I apologize for the misinformation. The ARIS survey in 2001 esimated there were 55,000 Scientologists in the U.S. The ARIS survey in 2009 estimated 25,000. It was the 8 year period drop not one year period.

  39. Anonymous says:

    As wonderful as it is to hear that the evil cult scientology is crumbling- its a little too late. By the end of 2010 it will not matter anymore.Would have been great if it crumbled 5 years ago or sooner.remember as bad as scientology is- FREEMASONRY is far worse.In a perfect world all these cults and secret societies would just burn up and be gone forever or never have existed in the first place.

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